A Conversation With A Person Who Has OCPD
82People with OCPD have trouble conversing and communicating.
Conversations. We all converse every day whether at work, school or at play. Humans have an intrinsic desire to talk to other humans, to share their thoughts, ideas and opinions. These conversations take many forms and a variety of emotions will be drawn upon to continue the conversation. How we communicate with others is very important.
Having a conversation with a person who has Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder can be difficult, frustrating, and at times, not worth the effort. People with OCPD have problems interacting socially so their communication skills can be impaired. The problem is, many people who suffer OCPD don't even realise they have a problem, it is usually a loved one who, through frustration, ends up finding out what is actually going on. This frustration usually stems from the conversation being very one-sided.
OCPD is a condition which has similar traits to Aspergers Syndrome however it is usually aligned with OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder), and this happens more because of the names being similar. OCPD IS NOT OCD and even the experts seem to get it wrong. Watch the video from Psychology Australia - they mention OCPD but the graphic says "Obsessive Compulsive Disorder".
When researching this topic I find time and time again that a video or article is titled OCPD but it is invariably about OCD. OCPD is a personality disorder that a person is born with, they cannot change, in fact, they fear change and very rarely (or never) go out of their comfort zone. They can be argumentative about the most trivial things and will often not answer a question directly. Eye contact is also a problem, OCPDers find it difficult to look people in the eye.
Anxiety is a big part of OCPD, especially when they are confronted with uncomfortable situations, which can be as simple as social interaction. The personality of an OCPDer can be closed and passive, they tend to be loners and stress is a big part of their lives.
People with Aspergers Syndrome (Aspies) also have impaired social and conversation skills, they can be obsessive and have interests in obscure subjects, no different to an OCPD sufferer. Basically OCPDers and Aspies view the world in a very different way to people who do not suffer these conditions. Rarely though is OCPD aligned with Aspergers.
This mental disorder affects all parts of the person's life, especially relationships.
A Conversation with an OCPDer
To set the scene let's imagine a typical suburban home where the partner has returned home from work quite late ...
"Hi, I was just about to call you, I left a message earlier. You're quite late again tonight"
"Yeh, had lots of work to do"
"Well you could have called, your dinner is now in the oven and probably dried out."
"OK."
"Is that all you have to say? What about 'sorry I was late because...'"
"Because what?"
"Andrew, you don't just come home late with no explanation. When you're in a relationship you have a responsibility to your partner."
"I was at work, not lazing about somewhere. You knew where I was."
"Did I? It's 9pm, anything could have happened, you're normally home by 6.30."
"Nothing happened, I'm home aren't I? Anyway I was home earlier last night."
"Nothing happening is not the point, and 8pm is still late! I was worried and you're not even prepared to say sorry."
"Sorry for what, I was at work not lazing at the pub or something. I work hard for both of us."
"I work too but there has to be a balance in life, you can't work all the time."
"I don't work all the time, I'm home now."
"Well when you are home you're working anyway. How about spending some time with me, I'm your partner remember?"
"I'm here now, what do you want?"
"I don't want anything in particular, just some time with you."
"Elaine I don't understand, I work hard and then come home to this. Just leave me alone."
"All I wanted was a phone call to let me know you would be late, is that too much to ask?"
"When I'm busy I don't think about anything but work."
"Oh you are impossible to talk to. I'm going to bed!"
The above is a fictional conversation but can be typical of a partner speaking to an OCPD partner where the point of the conversation just doesn't get through to the sufferer. People with OCPD do have impaired social skills and tend not to take responsibility for their actions when in a relationship.
These issues, which do start off being minor, can escalate into huge marital and relationship problems as the relationship develops. Notice how the OCPDer's answers are short and not really answering the question. Andrew has no idea what Elaine is complaining about because in his mind he is doing the right thing for both of them by working hard.
Being a hard worker is not necessarily a bad thing but if the long hours affect your relationship then a balance needs to be reached. With someone who suffers OCPD being a hard worker is a priority so relationships do tend to suffer.
If You Suspect Someone You Know May Have OCPD the Following Websites may Help.
- Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder - PsychCentral
General symptoms of obsessive-compulsive personality disorder. - Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder (OCPD)
Learn about obsessive compulsive personality disorder, when everything needs to be just right. OCPD is not the same as OCD, and people with OCPD may struggle with relationships and perfectionism. Support, articles, links and self-tests for OCD, repet - OCD ONLINE - The RIGHT Stuff - Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder:A defect of Philosophy, not
The title of this website if OCD Online but it is subtitled OCPD. The information here is very helpful.
People with OCPD may have Aspergers Syndrome
The traits for someone with Aspergers Syndrome (Aspies) are similar to those who have OCPD but one of the main differences I have observed with Aspies is they tend to know they are different. Many embrace these differences and are very successful in their lives.
People who suffer OCPD may not even know they have a problem and even when told they do, they will dispute the fact. Some OCPDers will accuse the other person of having the problem because how can they have a problem when they always strive to do things right?
OCPDers can come across as arrogant and at time malicious, especially when they are trying to force their ideals onto others. This is by no means intentional, they truly have no malice, it is just that they believe their way is the only way of doing something and it won't be finished correctly unless they do it themselves. The irony is OCPDers concentrate so much on small, insignificant details they very rarely finish any task, especially if it is a large or long term project.
OCPD can impact quite negatively on a person's quality of life. If you suspect a loved one has this condition it would be a good idea to seek help for them, even if they refuse it.
Dr Sarah Edelman has helped many people with perfectionism traits, anxiety, OCPD and OCD disorders. She uses cognitive therapies to help people overcome stress.
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Hey, MPG!
This is a great hub.
As I was reading it, I couldn't help to notice that I have a lot in common to people you have described as OCPDers, but I'm not completely sure...
Is there any way of knowing this for sure?
Great article on OCPD and I found it very helpful to see a conversation between someone with the disorder and a loved one as it really helped to highlight it. I thought it was also important to point out how OCPD and OCD get mixed up. Great writing MPG :-)
Hi, reading this it makes me more certain that my brother has this problem, I am not sure if he is aspergers or ocpd, his doctor has always said it is depression, and given him medication, but I don't agree, he has ocd, the 'normal' version, but there is much more too it, I remember when he was a child, he is a year and a half older than me, and he always wore gloves, even in the summer, never got himself dirty, not like me covered in mud, in the middle of a field studying flowers! he would always be washing his hands, and when we went on holiday he would have nightmares and sleep walk, he was and still is set in his ways but so much more, after reading this I think I will have to investigate it further, thank you, nell
Very inspiring hub and I learn something new from this hub. Thank you very much. ~prasetio
Nice job of explaining OCPD. Reading your example, I would think it was my spouse (just kidding...or me). Good information and rated it up.
That almost sounds like my Mother and I. She likes to talk about everything and always seems to have questions about everything I do. Meanwhile I get involved in what I'm working on. Sometimes people are just different. She is outgoing, to me she is always talking. But, I could just about become a hermit and be fine.
I've heard of OCD but never OCPD. After reading this I truly believe I know someone who suffers from it. Conversations with her never seem to hit home and they always are focused on seemingly small details which do not complete the intention of the conversation. Sometimes it sparks arguments with people close to her because she obsesses on these tiny things and believes she has to be right. It seems she is vicious at times, but if you knew her you'd know that is not true. It's definitely confusing to watch.
Thanks for an awesome explanation and for awareness.
this is really a miracle for me to find this out now after 20 years of marriage.they have treating her for ocd,adhd,and anxiety.she clearly has all the syptoms you have talked about .thank you .and thank google.






















Millionaire Tips Level 8 Commenter 6 months ago
This is really interesting. I know people who think like this.